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Post by Graylion on Nov 20, 2016 9:23:47 GMT
We'll need a new family of heavy armour vehicles IMO. That'll be an MBT and an IFV. I think the Israelis are on to something with Merkava 4 and Namer. I suggest development of a base vehicle that can be split off into an MBT with a 130mm main cannon and an IFV with 10 seats, and a RWS that fulfills the following requirements: - 40mm CTA cannon
- .338 coax MG
- MLP ATGM
- Commander must be able to stick head out
- reloadable under armour
Rubber treads if possible. The work Saab have done with active suspension should come in handy here. |
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Post by zen9 on Nov 26, 2016 1:12:28 GMT
A good point, and one that can spread around the EU and provide a platform for compeeting systmes to be mounted on!
130mm gun.....?
just for a moment....why not a 127mm gun?
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Post by Graylion on Dec 13, 2016 13:40:07 GMT
for the same reason a naval 105 or 155 doesn't make sense. Army ammunition is two part, naval is single. Never the twain shall meet.
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Post by Graylion on Dec 13, 2016 13:48:24 GMT
We just had a conversation about this on Tony's board. The ideal MBT would seem to have the following chacteristics:
- big gun with autoloader
- smaller gun (CT40) for lighter targets, thus doing away with the need for IFVs
for original idea Strv2000
develop APC and MBT in parallel and use as many common modules as possible, but do not try for same base platform. The requirements are too different.
APC to be as well protected as MBT and be a pure battle taxi with RWS (30x113?) for self defence.
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Post by zen9 on Dec 15, 2016 0:03:13 GMT
I looked up the Strv2000.....very attractive concept. I think it's worth working on the gun and autoloader for this, even if it ends up on something more conventional.
Rather like the idea of the 140mm gun, why mess about with 130mm when the 140mm gives a lot more scope for other rounds....?
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Post by Graylion on Dec 15, 2016 11:28:49 GMT
Rheinmetall's current 130mm is as powerful as the 140mm concept at the time. 130mm can be retrofitted into existing Leo2s
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Post by zen9 on Dec 20, 2016 22:22:15 GMT
I see your point.
But for a mo.......why not invest in this being CTAS?
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Post by Graylion on Dec 30, 2016 10:26:53 GMT
CTAS?
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Post by zen9 on Jan 1, 2017 17:36:10 GMT
Cased Telescoped Ammunition System.
Having developed this for the 40mm, why not apply this to larger rounds?
I can see a potential for some space saving inside a tanks cramped interior, and some potential for simpler automatic ammunition handling and loading.
funding this would have repercussions/implications for other large diameter gun systems as well.
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