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Oct 16, 2016 19:25:24 GMT
Post by Graylion on Oct 16, 2016 19:25:24 GMT
So what would the fleet SSN be? 1st generation I'd envision more Barracudas, possibly with a hull plug for VLS?
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Oct 27, 2016 10:59:22 GMT
Post by zen9 on Oct 27, 2016 10:59:22 GMT
So what would the fleet SSN be? 1st generation I'd envision more Barracudas, possibly with a hull plug for VLS? Really torn on this question. Still to my mind Astute was and is the better option, as is the single use reactor. Refuelling is expensive and dangerous. But that is the model the French have gone for, piggybacking on their civilian nuclear industry. Also torn because the UK did showcase quite an innovative future concept of simpler external form (easier/cheaper to build) with internal pumpjets for low noise and better streamlining. DCN has have had some innovative ideas, but I still think that UK concept is worth pursuing. Ironically the EU would have the potential funds to derisk this with a research/prototype sub. |
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Oct 27, 2016 11:52:14 GMT
Post by Graylion on Oct 27, 2016 11:52:14 GMT
True, all of this. But I cannot see the UK participating in this. The whole idea of a joint EU military is anathema to it.
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Oct 28, 2016 12:45:58 GMT
Post by Graylion on Oct 28, 2016 12:45:58 GMT
Also torn because the UK did showcase quite an innovative future concept of simpler external form (easier/cheaper to build) with internal pumpjets for low noise and better streamlining. Do you have a link for that? Seriously interested. |
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Oct 28, 2016 23:11:13 GMT
Post by zen9 on Oct 28, 2016 23:11:13 GMT
OK so it came up first on the successor to the Fifth Column forum, but it's also on the Secret Projects Forum as well as somewhere deeply burried in the WArships1 RN section. Heres a link fo Secret Projects Thread. www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2550.0.html |
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Oct 30, 2016 7:28:43 GMT
Post by Graylion on Oct 30, 2016 7:28:43 GMT
Thanks, but that link comes out in the forum home? As regards civilian fuel, it has the advantage that you can use it without violating the non-proliferation treaty. That might help for the EU, but also, was I Oz or Canada, I'd be looking that.
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Nov 3, 2016 0:09:17 GMT
Post by zen9 on Nov 3, 2016 0:09:17 GMT
So first off do joing that forum, it's fascenating stuff!!! Lets try this....but if not type into google "bae systems advanced hull form submarine concept" and it ought to be findable.  |
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Nov 6, 2016 21:17:45 GMT
Post by Graylion on Nov 6, 2016 21:17:45 GMT
That is seriously cool
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Dec 12, 2016 12:47:59 GMT
Post by zen9 on Dec 12, 2016 12:47:59 GMT
If one wanted to draw the UK in, this would be an option to fund a prototype. If I was French, I'd seriously ponder cooperation here.
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Dec 16, 2016 10:12:08 GMT
Post by Graylion on Dec 16, 2016 10:12:08 GMT
With the brilliant French track record on cooperation  I'd happily have the UK's technology. I just wonder how many bridges are being burnt at the mo |
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Dec 19, 2016 12:39:23 GMT
Post by zen9 on Dec 19, 2016 12:39:23 GMT
So I'm now logged in? That was not funny!!!!!! And the login button is still not there, more a logout button!!!!
I don't think we are burning any bridges in Defence.
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Dec 20, 2016 21:53:21 GMT
Post by Graylion on Dec 20, 2016 21:53:21 GMT
I was having a lot of fun with that too. Weird software.
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Dec 20, 2016 23:15:43 GMT
via mobile
Post by zen9 on Dec 20, 2016 23:15:43 GMT
Right now the UK and France are if anything deepening their defence relationship with each other.
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I'd happily have the UK's technology. I just wonder how many bridges are being burnt at the mo