Post by Graylion on Oct 14, 2016 13:45:37 GMT
I am using the term frigate the same way the JMSDF is using dstroyer - everything is a frigate. This ship is to be a flat top, in the way these are getting more popular internationally. IMO the attempts at creating versatile aviation ships like the Invincibles or the Hyugas failed because they were so valuable as carries that their other roles got sidelined. The only way to avoid that is IMO to have enough.
Price tag ~ 1.5 G€
NGFS, area air defence, ASW, intervention/stabilisation work, humanitarian relief
This is for a supposed EU navy and uses EU sourced components mostly. It is to be the major general purpose unit of the fleet - similar to the Burkes. They will be ice capable and will be able to be crewed by 2 crews like the F 125.
"Through Deck". No dock, but stern ramp for loading LCVP like Damen crossover and Karel Doorman
split deck layout, aft 75 m for hangar and flexdeck, 22 m wide, 2 lifts 16 x 6 m, Hangar fits 8 * AW101
Deck 1 -5.50 m -5.50 m Engine Room
Deck 2 -2.75 m -2.75 m
Deck 3 0.00 m 0.00 m Deck 3
Deck 4 2.75 m 2.75 m Vehicle Deck
Deck 5 5.50 m
Deck 6 8.25 m 8.25 m Hangar Deck
Deck 7 11.00 m
Deck 8 13.75 m
Deck 9 16.50 m 16.50 m Flight Deck
Armament:
1 OTO 127mm LW
2 x 3 x 3 launchers for NSM/JSM
1 x 8 x 8 Sylver A50 between islands and
2 x 8 x 8 Sylver A70 in the stern for
GP loadout:
Aster 30 Block 2 (70)
Aster 15 (30)
Sea Ceptor-ER (24 - 6)
Sea Ceptor (24 - 6)
VL Asroc (8)
MdCN (36)
Spear 3 (32 - 8)
Nulka VL (64 - 16)
Land attack:
MdCN (104)
VL-NSM (32)
Spear VL (64 - 16)
Asroc (8)
Sea Ceptor-ER (32 - 8)
Sea Ceptor (32 - 8)
VL Asroc (4)
Nulka VL (64 - 16)
Hot War - CVBG:
Aster 30 Block 2 (96)
Aster 15 (40)
VL Asroc (16)
VL-NSM (16)
Nulka VL (96 - 24)
2 x 2 TT 533 Black Shark
4 x 76mm/L62 Strales on the corners on sponsons
4 x OTO Marlin 20 with ATK M230
7 x CB 90/LCVP in davits (5 port, 2 starboard), LCVP capable of carrying 1 Armadillo or Boxer
1500 sqm vehicle deck / flexspace
Beam flight deck 32.5 m
Crew 200
Accommodation for 500 supernumeraries (staff, marines, aviation crew, evacuees) and 525 lane metres (=1650 sqm) for vehicles - flex deck which accommodates choppers, containers, and modules like hospital extensions and is accessible through side door and stern doors and ramp. NATO class 2+ hospital, expandable to 3 via containers on flexdeck.
Sensors:
Saab Sea Giraffe 8b on iMast 400, Thales Smart-L EWC FP, CEC
UMS4110 hull mounted sonar with side scanning sonar like Hyuga
Towed array CAPTAS-4 palletized
Propulsion:
IEP - 2 shaft ABB CRP Azipod with 14.25 MW per motor for 29 kts. ~12 MW for hotel load
8% electric losses
3 x MTU 8000-20V - 10 MW each for hotel and cruise
1 x RollsRoyce MT30 - 36 MW
Range 8000 nm @ 22 kts = 1.5 Gg of fuel plus 0.5 Gg aviation fuel
Ice capability
Displacement: ~20 Gg normal
Connaught, EU FGH laid down 2016
Displacement:
18,409 t light; 18,860 t standard; 20,094 t normal; 21,081 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(746.93 ft / 672.57 ft) x 88.58 ft x (22.97 / 23.81 ft)
(227.66 m / 205.00 m) x 27.00 m x (7.00 / 7.26 m)
Armament:
1 - 5.00" / 127 mm 64.0 cal gun - 66.14lbs / 30.00kg shells, 600 per gun
Auto rapid fire gun in turret on barbette mount, 2016 Model
1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck aft
4 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 62.0 cal guns - 0.00lbs / 0.00kg shells, 600 per gun
Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 2016 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
10 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm 70.0 cal guns - 2.43lbs / 1.10kg shells, 2,000 per gun
Machine guns in deck and hoist mounts, 2016 Model
4 x Twin mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
1 x Twin mount on centreline, forward deck forward
1 hull mount in casemate- Limited use in heavy seas
Weight of broadside 90 lbs / 41 kg
Main Torpedoes
4 - 21.0" / 533 mm, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m torpedoes - 1.280 t each, 5.121 t total
In 2 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes
Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion generators,
Electric motors, 2 shafts, 75,628 shp / 56,418 Kw = 29.00 kts
Range 3,000nm at 22.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,222 tons
Complement:
843 - 1,097
Cost:
£17.789 million / $71.156 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 6 tons, 0.0 %
- Weapons: 6 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 1,809 tons, 9.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 10,993 tons, 54.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,685 tons, 8.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 5,600 tons, 27.9 %
- Hull below water: 1,200 tons
- Hull above water: 4,000 tons
- Above deck: 400 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
0 lbs / 0 Kg = NaN x 5.0 " / 127 mm shells or 2.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
Metacentric height 5.4 ft / 1.6 m
Roll period: 16.0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 30 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.01
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.20
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck ,
an extended bulbous bow and large transom stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.514 / 0.520
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.59 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 30.22 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 15
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 50.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 5.00 %, 54.13 ft / 16.50 m, 54.13 ft / 16.50 m
- Forward deck: 55.00 %, 54.13 ft / 16.50 m, 54.13 ft / 16.50 m
- Aft deck: 38.00 %, 54.13 ft / 16.50 m, 54.13 ft / 16.50 m
- Quarter deck: 2.00 %, 45.11 ft / 13.75 m, 45.11 ft / 13.75 m
- Average freeboard: 53.95 ft / 16.45 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 58.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 510.5 %
Waterplane Area: 41,826 Square feet or 3,886 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 218 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 106 lbs/sq ft or 520 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.74
- Longitudinal: 15.19
- Overall: 1.00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Warning: Beam between bulkheads too wide
Price tag ~ 1.5 G€
NGFS, area air defence, ASW, intervention/stabilisation work, humanitarian relief
This is for a supposed EU navy and uses EU sourced components mostly. It is to be the major general purpose unit of the fleet - similar to the Burkes. They will be ice capable and will be able to be crewed by 2 crews like the F 125.
"Through Deck". No dock, but stern ramp for loading LCVP like Damen crossover and Karel Doorman
split deck layout, aft 75 m for hangar and flexdeck, 22 m wide, 2 lifts 16 x 6 m, Hangar fits 8 * AW101
Deck 1 -5.50 m -5.50 m Engine Room
Deck 2 -2.75 m -2.75 m
Deck 3 0.00 m 0.00 m Deck 3
Deck 4 2.75 m 2.75 m Vehicle Deck
Deck 5 5.50 m
Deck 6 8.25 m 8.25 m Hangar Deck
Deck 7 11.00 m
Deck 8 13.75 m
Deck 9 16.50 m 16.50 m Flight Deck
Armament:
1 OTO 127mm LW
2 x 3 x 3 launchers for NSM/JSM
1 x 8 x 8 Sylver A50 between islands and
2 x 8 x 8 Sylver A70 in the stern for
GP loadout:
Aster 30 Block 2 (70)
Aster 15 (30)
Sea Ceptor-ER (24 - 6)
Sea Ceptor (24 - 6)
VL Asroc (8)
MdCN (36)
Spear 3 (32 - 8)
Nulka VL (64 - 16)
Land attack:
MdCN (104)
VL-NSM (32)
Spear VL (64 - 16)
Asroc (8)
Sea Ceptor-ER (32 - 8)
Sea Ceptor (32 - 8)
VL Asroc (4)
Nulka VL (64 - 16)
Hot War - CVBG:
Aster 30 Block 2 (96)
Aster 15 (40)
VL Asroc (16)
VL-NSM (16)
Nulka VL (96 - 24)
2 x 2 TT 533 Black Shark
4 x 76mm/L62 Strales on the corners on sponsons
4 x OTO Marlin 20 with ATK M230
7 x CB 90/LCVP in davits (5 port, 2 starboard), LCVP capable of carrying 1 Armadillo or Boxer
1500 sqm vehicle deck / flexspace
Beam flight deck 32.5 m
Crew 200
Accommodation for 500 supernumeraries (staff, marines, aviation crew, evacuees) and 525 lane metres (=1650 sqm) for vehicles - flex deck which accommodates choppers, containers, and modules like hospital extensions and is accessible through side door and stern doors and ramp. NATO class 2+ hospital, expandable to 3 via containers on flexdeck.
Sensors:
Saab Sea Giraffe 8b on iMast 400, Thales Smart-L EWC FP, CEC
UMS4110 hull mounted sonar with side scanning sonar like Hyuga
Towed array CAPTAS-4 palletized
Propulsion:
IEP - 2 shaft ABB CRP Azipod with 14.25 MW per motor for 29 kts. ~12 MW for hotel load
8% electric losses
3 x MTU 8000-20V - 10 MW each for hotel and cruise
1 x RollsRoyce MT30 - 36 MW
Range 8000 nm @ 22 kts = 1.5 Gg of fuel plus 0.5 Gg aviation fuel
Ice capability
Displacement: ~20 Gg normal
Connaught, EU FGH laid down 2016
Displacement:
18,409 t light; 18,860 t standard; 20,094 t normal; 21,081 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(746.93 ft / 672.57 ft) x 88.58 ft x (22.97 / 23.81 ft)
(227.66 m / 205.00 m) x 27.00 m x (7.00 / 7.26 m)
Armament:
1 - 5.00" / 127 mm 64.0 cal gun - 66.14lbs / 30.00kg shells, 600 per gun
Auto rapid fire gun in turret on barbette mount, 2016 Model
1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck aft
4 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 62.0 cal guns - 0.00lbs / 0.00kg shells, 600 per gun
Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 2016 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
10 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm 70.0 cal guns - 2.43lbs / 1.10kg shells, 2,000 per gun
Machine guns in deck and hoist mounts, 2016 Model
4 x Twin mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
1 x Twin mount on centreline, forward deck forward
1 hull mount in casemate- Limited use in heavy seas
Weight of broadside 90 lbs / 41 kg
Main Torpedoes
4 - 21.0" / 533 mm, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m torpedoes - 1.280 t each, 5.121 t total
In 2 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes
Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion generators,
Electric motors, 2 shafts, 75,628 shp / 56,418 Kw = 29.00 kts
Range 3,000nm at 22.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,222 tons
Complement:
843 - 1,097
Cost:
£17.789 million / $71.156 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 6 tons, 0.0 %
- Weapons: 6 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 1,809 tons, 9.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 10,993 tons, 54.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,685 tons, 8.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 5,600 tons, 27.9 %
- Hull below water: 1,200 tons
- Hull above water: 4,000 tons
- Above deck: 400 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
0 lbs / 0 Kg = NaN x 5.0 " / 127 mm shells or 2.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
Metacentric height 5.4 ft / 1.6 m
Roll period: 16.0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 30 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.01
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.20
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck ,
an extended bulbous bow and large transom stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.514 / 0.520
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.59 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 30.22 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 15
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 50.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 5.00 %, 54.13 ft / 16.50 m, 54.13 ft / 16.50 m
- Forward deck: 55.00 %, 54.13 ft / 16.50 m, 54.13 ft / 16.50 m
- Aft deck: 38.00 %, 54.13 ft / 16.50 m, 54.13 ft / 16.50 m
- Quarter deck: 2.00 %, 45.11 ft / 13.75 m, 45.11 ft / 13.75 m
- Average freeboard: 53.95 ft / 16.45 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 58.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 510.5 %
Waterplane Area: 41,826 Square feet or 3,886 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 218 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 106 lbs/sq ft or 520 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.74
- Longitudinal: 15.19
- Overall: 1.00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Warning: Beam between bulkheads too wide
